A typical clueless RICS Chartered Surveyor

Clueless RICS Chartered Surveyor

This is a typical example of the sort of stupidity we see almost daily.  We did a survey on a beautiful 1930's cavity walled house - built entirely with lime and soft brick.  It is absolutely pristine - internally all the walls are covered with the original lime plaster and limewashed.  They have been covered in a thin layer of textured paint and wallpaper which peels off to the limewash.  The house is BONE DRY. Thermo hygrometer readings throughout the day showed about 8 g/m3 in all the rooms, in a house which had not been occupied for weeks, and no heating until the day I arrived.  There was no sign of any dampness anywhere.  All external cavity vents were open and worked.  Chimneys vented.  Ceilings original lath and plaster and in perfect condition.  Internal floors about 9 inches above ground level.  Drainage perfect.  The house is utterly, completely pristine. NO work is needed.  

The idiot of a surveyor - I should use stronger language - told the buyers all the plaster needed stripping and they should get Peter Cox in to do a damp survey. They were then told by an equally fraudulent Peter Cox that £5,000 worth of stripping was needed and the house had rampant rising damp.  All the ceilings apparently need overboarding, adding significant weight to the ceilings without any need - no load calculations having been done either.

The surveyor - his report is in photo below - clearly hasn't a clue what lime is - the wording here is some of the most incredulous rubbish I've ever seen, and indicates a total incomprehension of the subject:

"Based upon the age of the property, it is likely that the plaster is a form of render with a lime base.  This lime can react with water and if a distemper paint has been used and there is the presence of damp then the lime may have reacted..."

I've said before that many RICS surveyors are incompetent idiots - and this totally bears out everything I continue to say about them. This bloke should not be allowed near a dolls house.  Rics urgently needs to re-train all of their surveyors into understanding building pathology and building materials - or give up any pretence at surveying old houses, and stick to Wimpeys.  The sheer incompetence of this idiot nearly cost the client £10,000 of their retirement funds to do work not needed - but also which would have coated the walls with cement and gypsum, making it unbreathable and damp into the bargain.

The pricing for damp proofing - NOT NEEDED - was £5,200

Cost of overboarding ceilings - NOT NEEDED - £2,500

Cost of idiot to do incompetent survey - £950

Total incompetent and fraudulent cost of works not needed £10,000 give or take a few pennies.

All due to an incompetent RICS Chartered Surveyor.  He also failed to mention the whole house was repointed in cement which was trapping moisture into the outer leaf, that the bricks had been damaged by angle grinding, and various other issues. 

I've said this before and will say it again - RICS is ultimately responsible for the stupidity of these people.  They NEED to retrain their surveyors.  They need to stop them using 'damp' meters, and educate them properly.  Until then, we will continue to see incompetence on a staggering scale, which is simply unacceptable.

RICS - do something about it and earn your logo - 'The mark of property Professionalism'..

Another Peter Cox Fraud

This is the plan the Peter Cox did - bloke called Mark Abbott if anyone comes across him - claiming to be 'qualified' - he's got scam letters issued by the equally scam Property Care Association.  

Our Mark Abbott went round the house, pushing a Protimeter in the wall and declared that the entire ground floor was full of rising damp and all needed to be damp proofed.  Apparently the damp course has failed.. 

I followed the trail of pinholes in the plaster, most of the spots did not even register with the pin meter the walls were so dry, and so free of salts.  Just to humour both the idiot from RICS, and our Mark Abbott, I did some carbide samples. The carbide meter needle did not even get off the stop - zero moisture in any of the samples.

Do not use Peter Cox - they are quite simply the most fraudulent bunch of criminals I have ever come across.


RICS incompetence - the use of 'damp meters'

We are having to deal with an unprecedented volume of incompetent surveys by RICS Chartered Surveyors who are using 'Damp Meters' to diagnose problems.  In the last few months, I have had THREE cases of negligence, one of which has already admitted responsibility, and another two who are FRICS, who are currently squirming their way to independent tribunal.

Each of them has used a 'damp meter' or 'protimeter' to diagnose 'rising damp'.  In each case, we have shown the house to be dry, and their so called professional, RICS "The Mark of Property Professionalism" to be a load of old cobblers. These people are incompetent at best and should not be surveying a dolls house.  

Let's get something straight:

  • Damp meters do not measure damp.
  • RICS Chartered surveyors who use damp meters are professional idiots
  • The system needs changing.

We now have a database of heaven knows how many cases of these idiots - most of whom are now handing back survey fees, and some of whom are engaged in liability cases reaching into the hundreds of thousands. The average RICS Chartered Surveyor has not got a bloody clue what he or she is doing.  I have challenged RICS to discussion - they decline.  They try to threaten me with legal action - I say - yup - bring it on.  I WANT them to try and take me to court for besmirching their silly 'We are The Mark of Property Professionalism".  I can then prove what a bunch of idiots they are.

Where does this leave the average homebuyer who wants to know if their future purchase is safe?


We simply do not have the resources to cover all the country's needs.  Nor should we.  There needs to be proper training of surveyors so they fully understand the differences between solid walled, breathable buildings, and new construction. There is a Standard - BS:7913.  99% of RICS Chartered surveyors have never heard of it, and never will - they couldn't give a damn. Surveyors are not taught this - again, blame the RICS - they are at fault, they do not want to train people in old buildings.  They can't give a damn about lime, about breathability, about using thermo hygrometers and thermal imaging cameras in surveys. The average idiot from RICS uses a £90 protimeter 'damp meter' to do a survey.  We use about £10,000 to £15,000 worth of thermal imaging cameras, thermo hygrometer probes, and thermocouples to look at how the building fabric is behaving. We know how to use this kit.  EVERY surveyor should do the same - and know how to use it.  Then they can call themselves the 'Mark of Property Professionalism'.  Until then, they are a bunch of uneducated yobbos in my view, who should not be let loose on a dolls house.


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